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You are reading “varied” differently from how I meant it. I wasn’t saying Nordic countries have less variety of businesses or less capitalism.

I meant the conditions workers experience from one employer/workplace to another are more constrained by collective bargaining and other institutions. If there’s a stronger common floor for wages, benefits, working conditions, dispute resolution, etc., then whether you happen to land at Company A or Company B matters less for some of those things.

In the US there’s a much wider space for individual employers to determine those conditions themselves, so “is a union useful?” can depend enormously on the particular workplace. That was the distinction I was making.

Woops thats an autocorrect mistake lol “lens” is supposed to be" ones"

Says they aren’t less varied

describes how they are less varied

Mhm, I’m saying find the lens that aren’t.

Oh yeah definitely wasnt thinking about Nordic countries.

Its my understanding that Nordic countries are basically moving capitalism along the slowest by burdening everyone in many ways but more evenly compared to somewhere like in the us so it makes sense to me that in countries like that people could benefit more from unions because they have more direct things for unions to deal with but in the us all the businesses operate much more variably so it really depends on what place in particular is in question and it could even be a matter of location of the same business having wildly different problems or lack of problems.

Seek out unions where unions are happening is different from seeking out unions where they aren’t yet established and where they aren’t at all are places where they seem to be functionally well without extra governance and so likely more people worth helping out because they have things going in non destructive ways from the start.

I’m not saying unions are bad and we should not have them I’m saying we should not need unions in the first place so we should seek out where they aren’t needed.

Also side note, I’m surprised how many people are downvoting my posts in this thread lol can people not read the subtext?

That is the perverse incentive of capitalism yes.

Not every field is prone to this perverse incentive and it depends on a per company level how bad it is at any given place, we can choose to get paid well and not need unions easily enough so I’d avoid supporting a company with the work I do for them if something got so bad that it needed a major regulating body to sprout up.

Maybe this is just me being privledged or something but I’ve never seen instances where a union was just automatically better and I’ve actually heard a handful of accounts where it was mostly wasteful so it seek very much like your mileage will vary.

Trades are fine but IMO if you have to use a union to make your income then the people at the top of the field are too much of an asshat to know that what they do is broken and causing people to need unions.

I figured out recently that Thor Ragnarok is a perfect analogy for what is happening, and this is also why I think everyone’s pdoom should be very little, because they just evolve into new asgard

Obsidian ain’t that bad, its pretty overkill and not exactly open source but it is nice when I’m using syncthing with it and have access to community plugins, I just noticed recently umbrel even added a obsidian app to their store so self hosting it doesn’t seem like a crazy issue to me idk about if self.st has obsidian on it or not but its an option at least.