A reminder that you can’t vote your way out of FASCISM!

  • DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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    19 hours ago

    The Dems look like they have good chance of winning big in November.

    Time to start screaming BoTh SIdes ARe tHE SAmE!

    Also, it’s always funny to me that the people who are calling for revolution loudest are never the ones actually on the front lines.

    • rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      18 hours ago

      I helped organize a 600 person union, I was doing rapid response in Minneapolis, and I helped organize the Worker Assemblies in Minneapolis.

      Both sides fucking suck.

        • rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          5 hours ago

          No. But I did watch as liberal politicians across Minnesota tried to coopt our worker assemblies in attempts to neuter our movement for their own political goals.

          • DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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            5 hours ago

            “No” is the word that matters.

            GOP ICE is killing people, and that’s exactly the same as Dem politicians coopting you?

            Thanks for proving my point.

            • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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              33 minutes ago

              The dems had a chance to defund ice and shut down the govenrment until it was eliminated. They stabbed us in the back instead.

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              4 hours ago

              We know that the GOP is the enemy. But pretending like Democrats are our allies while they hold a knife behind their back doesn’t help either.

              We, the working class people, do all the work to improve this country. But democratic politicians want us to believe that only they can make things better. We’ve been waiting for universal healthcare since the 30s, during the great depression. Liberals pushed the Taft-Hartley act and went around the president to pass it. Liberals only liked MLK and Malcolm X after they died, and probably think Fred Hampton and Huey Newton had it coming.

              If you’re expecting Democrats to save us, you will be sorely mistaken.

              Edit: also, point to the part where I said that they were the same.

      • phdepressed@sh.itjust.works
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        15 hours ago

        Is there a side that while sucking is still better than the other? Both sides suck, but they are not the same.

      • olejellylegs@lemmy.zip
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        15 hours ago

        No party is perfect. But both parties are not the same.

        What are you REALLY trying to say?

        Was Jimmy Carter an anti union leader of a party no different than Nixon’s? Or is there some nuance???

        Is there currently friction in politics for the average worker regardless of party? Or are democrats the same as Nixon and you alone have the secret sight we all lack?

        • rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          14 hours ago

          I think our answer is outside of politics. Liberal Democratic politics is only useful insofar as slowing the erosion of our rights while living under the ruling class. We have to get organized to have a national general strike and completely stop the system until we have an equitable society.

          • JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip
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            1 hour ago

            And then we could all ride our winged unicorns to the great banquet in the sky where nobody gets sick and everyone is a good person.

            • rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              The mass strike on jan 23rd in Minnesota was so effective that over 50 CEOs sent a letter to the president asking for de-escalation, and reduced ICE presence in Minneapolis by 90%. After a 1 day mass strike.

              Maybe you don’t believe in the power you hold as a worker, but I do.

                • rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  16 minutes ago

                  Why do you think I’m organizing unions? MN did great, but it was a practice run. We need more people to be organized to our cause. I cannot be in every state at the same time, but I can make my state respond better next time.

                  Other areas also participated in the mass strike, but it couldn’t hold a candle to the MN turnout. Organizers like me know what they need to do in their state, but we’re not ready for a national strike committee yet.

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          14 hours ago

          Oh Jesus, he thinks president peanut did everything right. 🤣🤣🤣

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      17 hours ago

      What’s really fumy is people only noticing at election time what we say all the time.

    • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
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      18 hours ago

      The issue is the enemy is obfuscated. Like grapes of wrath… “Well who owns the banks?”

      “And now the owner men grew angry. You’ll have to go. But it’s ours, the tenant men cried. No. The bank, the monster owns it. You’ll have to go. We’ll get our guns, like Grampa when the Indians came. What then? Well—first the sheriff, and then the troops. You’ll be stealing if you try to stay, you’ll be murderers if you kill to stay. The monster isn’t men, but it can make men do what it wants.”

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      15 hours ago

      how many times have you been through this. it’s tiring even watching your side win. nothing big changes after, just the small stuff.

    • SaltyAmerican@lemmy.worldOP
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      15 hours ago

      You don’t know who’s on the front lines because you’ve never been to an actual protest. And both sides implies that there are two different sides. There is not. There is one side and then there is the working class.

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        1 hour ago

        You don’t know a thing about that person. It’s fun to think that only you know the answers, but at some point you have to grow up and realize that you don’t know them either and being a smug dickhead accomplishes nothing.

      • olejellylegs@lemmy.zip
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        15 hours ago

        I’ve been to actual protests since the 90s. I can see that you’re the issue, not those protestors I was next to. I know how they vote, you would call them the boogeyman while they support your cause.