In a completely unsurprising turn of events, Meta’s Muse AI is stealing Apple Messages, past and present, and uploading the contents to its cloud, even if explicitly told not to.

  • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    This is describing the ability to read the messages from the actively booted and decrypted partition. This would absolutely not work without being able to log onto the machine. So while you are technically correct you are leaving out the caveat that this only works when you can also access the app not strictly without the app.

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      3 days ago

      But the context is, that Meta’s software can extract them. For the software to run the system must be booted and the partition is likely already decrypted. So we’re exactly in this state.

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        3 days ago

        Yes but the comment I was replying to implied that it could be done not in that state hence my question.

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          Huh? I did not imply that at all. If your hard drive is encrypted the state of anything on that drive doesn’t matter at all. You’ve completely made up a scenario in your head about what I was talking about.

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              2 days ago

              Your logic makes no sense. Either the partition is decrypted (you’re logged in and can access iMessages) or it’s not. If it’s not decrypted then it doesn’t matter what platform you’re on, you’re not getting access to any data on the drive. If it’s decrypted then it is how the app itself stores things.

              In iMessages case it’s a SQLite db. The same is not true of 1Password for example.

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                2 days ago

                You said you could get to the messages without the app which gives the impression that it can be done when the app cannot be accessed not only when it also can.

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                  1 day ago

                  No it doesn’t. It means you can access the messages without the app. Not when the fucking computer is off. The jump in logic here is wild.

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                    22 hours ago

                    Putting aside that things like Target Disk Mode and removable hard drives exist, I’m really not sure why you can’t get over the fact that your wording was confusing to some people. Just move on. Just because it doesn’t make sense to you doesn’t mean it doesn’t make sense.