Well, any world where you have to resort to dark humor to stay sane, deserves only ridicule and lack of empathy.
What when dark humor is self-deprecating instead of deprecating others? For example, this drawing I made, in which there’s humor from mixing esoterica/occult (alchemical transmutation/metamorphosis) with ornithological behaviors (owls eat rodents) being read by my self-avatar (i.e. a projection of my self) in self-loathe (imagining oneself as a rat/mouse to become dinner for owls). Perhaps one would call this “grim humor” because it’s a subtle Memento Mori, but it seems more of a dark humor piece, a piece I had some legit laugh back when I made. Drawing pieces like this is my attempt to stay sane while trapped into an insane existence.
My mind is blown
All humor is dark humor. Name a joke that doesn’t revolve around someone’s pain?
We laugh and cry for the same reasons. To cope with pain.
There’s a reason the best comedians are depressed.
“My mother never breast fed me, she always said she considered more of a friend” the late great Rodney dangerfield. His jokes are funny because no one loves him and he’s left as a husk emotionally. We laugh at that. One of the best comedians of all time and he’s funny because his life sucks.
Knock knock jokes. Puns. Fart noises. Picture of a pee pee.
Knock knock jokes: the pain is you have been made to look foolish. You did not expect such an obvious trick. “Boo who” why are you crying it’s just a joke.
Puns: how do people react to puns? With anger. People tell puns to get that reaction from people. The pain is how cringy the joke is.
Fart noises and penises. Embarrassment at a social taboo. Something private is now public and shame is the pain of the joke. Or if some purposely the pain is the vulgarity of the joke teller and the feeling of disgust it causes .
Bro. Subverting expectations ≠ pain. No one’s cried over a knock knock joke. Unless you have and in that case you’re a big baby.
I think people react that way to puns literally because of current societal pressure. Puns have existed since time immemorial, and there hasn’t been documentation for people reacting with the “ooo I hate you” response till modern times. Also those reactions are in jest almost the entire time.
The historical context also applies for farts and peens. There’s been less puritanical societies that also felt those were funny.
Also, even if ask humor is derived from suffering of others, which it isn’t, we’ve made a distinction between all types of humor and dark humor. Dark humor is jokes about morbid situations, and is not every type of joke ever.
Your argument holds no water and is a parroting of someone else’s quote, Rowen Atkinson (and possibly others but I know he said this at one point), when he was complaining that people are too pc and/or too worried about offending people.
There are different levels of pain lol. Just because we determined snake bites hurt worse than a paper cut it doesn’t mean paper cuts aren’t a version of pain. Same thing actually with the word “dark” you think nighttime is dark? Have you ever even been in a cave? That’s dark!
I’ve said nothing about the ethics of jokes. If anything you can take what I said to mean all jokes are in poor taste. That wouldn’t fit your narrative of what you think I’m saying tho so you ignored that lol the truth is I said nothing about ethics or what is appropriate.
I’m not parroting anyone. If I were I would have quoted him. More than one person can have a thought lol
Less puritanical societies… that remain nameless. Are we in a Puritanical society right now? Unless you’re going back to caveman times we’ve always been naked in private. Before that being naked wouldn’t have been funny. No one is laughing at boobs in societies that are shirtless. Same with farting. It wasn’t a joke until it was taboo.
Have you ever seen anyone rolling on the floor laughing just at a pun? I mean you mentioned me crying at knock knock jokes. Have you ever audible laughed at the talent of a pun or do you laugh because it’s stupid? Do you have any evidence of that being recent or just someone didn’t specifically write down the puns were stupid? Where is you’re source? Because we typically don’t create historic records of things that are considered “obvious”
Bro see a baby laughing at peekaboo and goes “hmm yesss this is pain, what dark humor”
Dude that’s the easiest one lol. A baby has no object permanence. Thier parent just disappeared in front of their eyes! They might never come back! Oh wait there they are again, thank god.
Bro cries at knock knock jokes lol
