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If you’re writing for fun or as a project with your friends or something, you should do it yourself. If it’s your job? Fuck it, give them the bare minimum amount of effort and make them eat your slop. Who cares? If you’re writing a TV show you should be assuming the audience is all on their phones anyway, it’s all trash and not worth the effort of real work.
How are writers making money these days?
Realistically there is no way to not use ai anymore.I think “making” AI art is essentially the same as commissioning a painting - you’re describing what you want to someone else and they’re making it for you (although in this case ‘someone’ is a kind of highly-optimized plagiarism machine, but same kind of principle.) When it’s done, you might “own” the result, but you didn’t make it IMO.
But if you’re commissioning it, at least an artist was able to pay for something using that money.
Is it really that crazy?
Professional writing has always been about throwing as many ideas out there until something catches on. You can sit there and draft over and over again, trying to write the perfect story but if it doesn’t get picked up then it doesn’t get picked up.
AI takes advantage of this. Our world already cared more about fake productivity and quantity more than quality.
If you’re an older author then you don’t really care. You can probably use your written works that are popular with AI to get a bit lazy as long as you check over everything and slip in some originality here and there. All the while you use your reputation from before AI became popular and tell people it isn’t AI.
Meanwhile new authors have to deal with all the AI content that’s out there, content that is constantly being made at a rate faster than anything they can put out.
This isn’t a defense. This is just me pointing out that this isn’t going away on its own.
Edit: After reading the comments I see what the issue is and I’m just really disappointed. Turns out, AI is only bad when it’s invading your hobbies. It’s apparently okay to cheat by using it for your professional life whenever possible.
Professional writing has always been about throwing as many ideas out there until something catches on.
Jesus fucking Christ.
If I’m wrong, if you think my comment is stupid then why don’t you prove it?
I’ll happily edit my own comment with sources if you’d like. I think it’s common knowledge that most writers don’t break out on their first published work though and that even afterwards most authors gain most of their revenue from backlist and back in print titles overall. Actually, I have the sources ready now if you’d like them.
My point was not to say this is a good thing but to point out that there is absolutely an incentive to cheat this way.
Pretty dumb analogy. Musicians have been using computers to automate as much as possible for decades
Pretty dumb analogy. The musicians are still writing the songs & music - all they’re automating is the playing of their creations. OP is talking about taking the human out of the creative process itself, not the recitation of the work.
OP is. It’s not clear that the author she blocked is. “Using AI” doesn’t mean “having AI write for you”. Plenty of authors just use it as a research aide or a sounding board. Plus, it’s a great way to learn which phrases to never use again.
I’ve upvoted for having the bravery to speak the true possibilities in here, but I would say the odds are kinda strongly against what you suggest.
Appreciate it. Also in fairness, I’ve definitely run into published books written by supposed specialists that are obviously 200 pages of AI prose (probably based on a 10 page essay).
I’m writing something for for the first time doing exactly these things. It hasn’t written one word for me, but it has suggested to me what words could maybe be better words if I can think of those words. (Editing advice, preliminary only, nothing meant to be final)
I really don’t understand why they don’t market it for these things instead of just writing for you.
Doesn’t seem like you’re familiar with the tools available in stuff like Ableton, the most popular DAW, or how the music industry works as a whole. And neither scenario is taking the human out of the creative process
The op only said “writers are crazy if they’re not using AI these days”. If that means using AI to write your story then yes it’s bad. If it means using AI to research your story or outline your story or make a schedule/game plan for writing (in a similar way that musicians use computers to compose the music they otherwise play themselves). Well, that can still be bad but if they still write the words themselves it’s definitely different.
If we’re gonna embrace black-and-white-only thinking, isn’t she a Nazi for being on substack?
I hate AI just like any normal person should but LLMs are reformulation and bibliographical research tool. If one field could use it right, it is the writing industry.
That doesn’t mean it will write for you, of course.
Oh no, not a block! What are they going to do now that this rando doesn’t see what they write anymore?!
I think the point is they aren’t actually “writing” anymore.
Two types of writers. Those that want to BE writers. And those who don’t want to write but say they do.
trying to think of the past here. nobody told anyone they were crazy for not using a smartphone or using a desktop. it’s nuanced but today shilling for AI means shilling for large corporations.
it’s too bad this tech is built on social media algos. i’m still interested in seeing its use for offline training data.
I just gotta say, this is the widest gaps I’ve ever seen in non-downvoted and downvoted takes ever in Lemmy. Everyone is either nuanced about AI or 100% against it. For better or worse, I think all of us will have to use it one way or another. In cybersecurity, because the attackers use it and gain speed and exponential capability with it, we have no choice but to use it also (at least as a vulnerability scanning tool). I think we’ll all find ourselves in such a situation, where either our competitors or other workers use it and we have to use it as a tool to keep up. The horse has already left the barn on this one.
“Nuanced”
looks inside
LLM glazing
Every damn time.
Using it sometimes sure. It’s sometimes better than google at giving me answers, and it’s great at troubleshooting dumb mistakes (or processing large amounts of code for things like security issues, but I don’t do that).
I also have little doubt that ML as a whole will reshape the world much like the WWW did - we do have an awful lot of compute now that could be used for more useful ML applications. But as it’s going, I doubt LLM’s will go much further. More and more people are seeing past the insane promises and realize they’re tools for some specific jobs, particularly once the pricing adjusts the use cases will likely be quite narrow.
