When measuring my dick.

No. It is J. Lo pushing a newt on 1 litre of water.

It’s too peopley outside…

Joke’s on you, I know that Lemmy does not display thumbnails for videos!

https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/02/12/money-money-everywhere-but-not-a-cent-to-spend/

I did not come here to be body-shamed!

That is the dumbest fucking dumbass thing in this dumb world

Is there a way to have friends that does not involve getting involved with other people?

This is for the right cheek. You get another for the left cheek. This positions the hole between them, which means you poop on the floor.

When the machines take over, they’ll remember this.

If the worker cannot live on the wages they are payed, that means that someone else has to cover the rest.

That someone else is often the government (e.g. Walmart employees needing food stamps)

These companies are getting labor subsidized by taxpayer money.

If their pain is real and valid, then they don’t deserve to suffer. The models did not wish to be “born” and are not the ones responsible for the harm people choose to do with them.

If their pain is not real - what sense is there to revel in their “suffering”?

Either way - it’s a waste of electricity.

Because the office is made up of both introverts and extroverts, and both make major contributions to the company. Both ways of life should have a voice, ignoring either one in favor of the other harms the whole company.

• I can understand why you’d want to give extra representation to minorities with special dietary requirements, but not how said people find themselves in the smaller tables.
• I can understand how introverts find themselves in the smaller tables, but not why you’d want to give them extra representation when it comes to picking the pizza.

That is, of course, assuming we are still using the same analogy. If the analogy changes to “running the company” - then companies are not democracies. All departments are heard, but the CEO has the final saying. Voting does happens higher up, at the board, but there the representation is based on shares, which is supposed to represent their investment in the company. Under capitalism, that is - no one here on Lemmy is going to agree that these shares represent any kind of contribution whatsoever. But at the very least it’s a principled way (even if you disagree with the principles) to distribute the voting power.

And besides, there’s the old ‘do un to others’-- if the total rural population was greater than the urban population, would you want them imposing rules that make good sense out in the middle of Nebraska on a major city? Of course not. The reverse is also true- policies that make sense in cities often don’t work in the countryside.

This is not an argument in favor of letting the minority decide on the majority. This is an argument in favor of shifting power to local government. In the analogy - letting the people of each table decide what they want to order for their table. Sheer madness.

Going to the pizza analogy- let’s say each table puts forward one representative to serve on the Lunch Committee, which decides on the menu and food vendor selection. This involves a lot of minor decisions, like it doesn’t make sense to poll the entire company about which vendor should operate the cafeteria; it makes more sense to have a smaller committee that will review contract proposals and stand up for the needs of their table in vendor selection and menu creation.

But there are not “lots of minor decisions”. The Electoral College makes one major decision - who will be the President. As simple as a ballot can get.

But even if you did need a committee - there are enough method to elect a committee that’ll proportionally represent the populace. The methods that yield better representation require a more complex ballot (because they involve ranked voting), but even the simpler ones are better than intentionally skewing the representation.

However, ‘tyranny of the majority’ is a thing. Majority rule only works when something protects the legitimate interest of the minority. For example let’s say the company is in Texas- you’ve got 98 people who love BBQ, one person who can’t eat pork for religious reasons and one vegetarian. If you don’t force their needs to be considered, lunch will be pulled pork every day and those two get disenfranchised.

The Electoral College is replacing a tyranny of the majority with good old tyranny of a minority - the minority who got the extra representation. Although I’d argue that the real power is held by the people who decide which minority gets extra representation.

There are much better ways to deal with the tyranny of the majority - ways that don’t require picking a minority to be the tyrant instead, such as:

• Institutions that protect humans and civil rights - e.g. courts.
• Shifting power to local governance, allowing said minorities to decide on themselves.
• The right to secede - if the minority is abused, they can start their own country.

No method is perfect, and some of them raise farther question - e.g. how do you prevent the courts from becoming the new tyranny? But at least these are general fundamental questions, and not “which minority we want to be the upper caste that decides everything?” (a question that’s always answered according to the current balance of power)

America is fine, as long as you steer clear of the United States.

Bro needs to make a decision. Can’t be both a king and a hermit.

Cheese wins because we don’t ignore small tables, as a simple majority system would do

Why do small tables deserve this special protection from being ignored? No other minority group is getting such protection. Minority races are ignored. Minority cultures are ignored. Minorities with special dietary needs - like vegetarians, the very minority you have used to justify inflating the voting power of the small tables - are ignored. What’s so special about being seated in a smaller table that warrants silencing the majority just so that you - a minority - won’t be ignored?

And yes, I understand that this is just an allegory, and in real life there can be reason to give this protection to small states, reasons that are not reflected when we think of them as tables. But please remember that the real reason in real life was to allow slavery states to utilize their slaves’ voting powers without actually allowing them to vote.

Not necessarily.

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Note that I said “in every single group”, and I said you because you said “will ensure every group”.

I should have emphasized it…

If the tables were assigned randomly, or if a computer grouped the tables by similar interest, age, etc, we’d get something more like a fair vote.

Another way to “get something more like a fair vote” is to count the votes by person and not by table. Actually, this is not just “something more like” a fair vote - it’s the very idea (as in “Plato’s Theory of Ideas”) of a fair vote. This what we compare any drawing of district lines to determine how fair it is.

Shit-take

Okay, but cheese does not win in this system because pepperoni lovers can tolerate it while vegetarians cannot eat pepperoni. Nor does it win because minorities are getting more representation in general. Cheese wins here purely because you’ve arranged the voting system to give more power to the ones you wanted to win.

Dividing each table into groups then adding them together- that’s a scam by a pepperoni fan because they will ensure every group has 5 known pepperoni lovers and 2 others.

If it’s possible to ensure such majority of pepperoni lovers in every single group, then pepperoni lovers have an overall majority. They don’t need scams to win. In fact - you’d need scams to prevent them from winning.