I don’t buy that completely. I had a to travel to a very liberal part of the US during trump 1… I would say the liberal patriotism (what some have better called American exceptionalism) was still thriving. While I fully understand people’s belief have gone down hill over the last few years (like your source says), I think it was more sudden than that. Also I’m not sure it won’t bounce back and revert to mean under a different government.

I said people were triggered cause it was on -3 or -5 or when I put my phone down yesterday.

Thanks. But they enshitified their main product enough that an opt out is worse than going to up and coming European alternatives. The future lies there for me.

Wish they’d just scrap it. Makes me want to migrate to qwant (despite disliking their lack of bang syntax). Or more accurately, I’m trying to migrate to qwant because of it, but I’ve still not converted completely.

I think it was letterman that started his show with “from New York, the greatest city in the world” that they unreflectively cheered for years … which I think is an example of how brainwashed even the more liberal Americans have been over the last 50 years. Their entire culture has been leading to this point.

They were never the good guys.

One of the first things I learned about climate change in the 90s was the US didn’t ratify Kyoto—and Bush withdrew in 01. Never the good guys. We can go back further (Allende, Nicaragua—not the good guys there either).

But still, even many liberal leaning people, think they are the greatest. And they laughably think this is a blip.

Edit: this post definitely triggered some Americans.

Penguin. No reason required.

Any adult who votes alt right should not just be welcomed for realising their hatred is wrong. Cause they’ll be as fickle next time they get an easy “solution” offered for their problems.

Obviously they shouldn’t be shunned forever. But I wish there were more consequences than “whoopsie daisy I accidentally aligned with fascists”

There are many reasons given here. Many are not new though. These discussions existed in 1800s about the left having a hard time unifying.