Can I get a smug lecture on how you’re choosing the third, disconnected track?

  • Salvo@aussie.zone
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    8 days ago

    The easy (legal, 2-step) way: Step 1; Vote Democrat in such overwhelming numbers that the Republicans cease to exist. Step 2; Vote to Left-leaning democrats in such numbers that the Fascist Zionist movement ceases to exist.

    The other way: Eat the rich.

    • lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
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      8 days ago

      This will actually work. People need to register as democrats (gross, I know) and vote for progressives in the primaries. Make the democrats the party you want.

      The other way will also work.

      • dreamy (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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        8 days ago

        You don’t shape the party, the party shapes you. All the “radical” DSA entryists that have won (AOC being the biggest example with her woke 1 comment) are slowly but surely moving rightwards.

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          7 days ago

          You are right that there will be a reversion to the median for individual politicians, but parties definitely change. The republicans have been drifting right since Truman; the democrats can shift left. It will take sustained effort, but every progressive who wins a primary shifts the needle a little.

          One caveat - we need to get corporate money out of politics. Like, completely. Corporations aren’t people and their donations aren’t free speech. There should also be an iron-clad cap on individual donations (no Musk-Rats dumping hundreds of millions on one party). Some countries have publicly-funded elections - a powerful bulwark against corruption.

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          8 days ago

          Yes, it seems almost all politicians begin to “rot” once elected, but that’s why they need regular pruning. New blood, new ideas, and energy for every cycle. It is exhausting but necessary.

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            8 days ago

            I’ve never seen this happen with the leftist parties elected in my country. Feels more like a Democratic Party issue.

    • AmyAye@nord.pub
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      7 days ago

      Yes but I want an instant solution yesterday so I will instead not vote so that Nazis can take over

      Now what?

      /s

      • freagle@lemmy.ml
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        7 days ago

        I hate to tell you this, but Democrats are the palatable Nazis. It was a Democrat that started NATO with Nazi officers. It was a Democrat that saved 10k from Nuremberg. It was a Democrat that decided to kill a million Koreans, a million Vietnamese, to make Laos the most bombed country in the world, to destroy Libya (the most prosperous country in Africa). Democrats are Nazis with the mask on. Republicans are Nazis with the mask off. You think Pelosi doesn’t know the Republicans are Nazis? But she’s still gonna say we need a strong Republican party? You think Biden didn’t know the Republicans are Nazis, but he didn’t do anything to stop them or even slow them down? He had the fucking full Epstein Files. He chose to sit on them.

        They’re all fucking Nazis and they have been Nazis since the founding from Thomas Jefferson and George Washington to James Madison to FDR and Truman to Bush and Clinton to Biden and Trump. All Nazis, all genocidaires, all mass murderers, all racists, all responsible for millions dead.