In a completely unsurprising turn of events, Meta’s Muse AI is stealing Apple Messages, past and present, and uploading the contents to its cloud, even if explicitly told not to.

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    7 days ago

    Source? AFAIK iMessages are stored encrypted by the Secure Enclave and can only be read through the same process that Touch ID works through. That’s why they can’t do iMessage through a browser because there must be a Secure Enclave present on the device. Pretty much the same reason Graphene OS only works on some devices.

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      Me? I wrote an app to read my iMessage database to pull two factor codes out and type them in automatically cause I was lazy.

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            This is describing the ability to read the messages from the actively booted and decrypted partition. This would absolutely not work without being able to log onto the machine. So while you are technically correct you are leaving out the caveat that this only works when you can also access the app not strictly without the app.

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              But the context is, that Meta’s software can extract them. For the software to run the system must be booted and the partition is likely already decrypted. So we’re exactly in this state.

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                Yes but the comment I was replying to implied that it could be done not in that state hence my question.

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                  6 days ago

                  Huh? I did not imply that at all. If your hard drive is encrypted the state of anything on that drive doesn’t matter at all. You’ve completely made up a scenario in your head about what I was talking about.

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          It is now. At least for browsers. It was not at the time for the menu bar app my company required, Tunnelblick.