i have been following Chinese models for about two years now because they are open-weight and qwen is fun to run on my kubernetes cluster, the news about this Apache licensed model complete with a recipe to make it again with potentially different ingredients is making we want to abandon them for something more ideologically sound and way more interesting
this new model, couldn’t universities rebuild it with different contexts and study it in ways you can’t reproduce in other models? like, is k2 horizons a good scientific foundation on which to study machine learning?
or am i just lacking way too much context and falling for hype?


can you share your experience with Apertus? I’m interested in running this!
Sorry - have not run it. Don’t have the rig to run a 70B at useful speeds.
I can vouch for MiniCPM5-2B (you’ll have to look into the training mix for that one yourself but IIRC, it also is open source)