Assembly Bill 2164 authored by Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan (D-Orinda) would have prohibited California’s governor from recognizing a request for extradition of a person related to their providing a legally protected healthcare activity in the Golden State to transgender individuals, or if they provide reproductive services. It provided certain exemptions, such as an extradition required by federal law.

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    As a leftist, I would vote for him for the same reason I’d vote for Hilary Clinton. To prevent the Republicans from taking over. That’s about it.

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      As a leftist, he’s the same as voting for right wing if he’s not a queer ally. I don’t give a shit about muh economee or gas. We can easily crash the economy by rejecting consumerism to make the capital class suffer.

      If he’s against vulnerable groups, he’s a fascist like the rest.

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        And this is how the rufhr wins. Because they are not the same.

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          No the furher won because people weren’t willing to stand up to him across the board. They appeased and compromised.

          A liberal democracy focused on money cannot stop the rising tide of fascism. History proves this.

          It’s not your privileged body being sold out for votes.

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        Who says he’s not a queer ally? I’ve seen him say and do plenty of things that are pro lgbtq. He disagrees with you on one issue and loses all credibility? This is how you lose allies and give power to people that genuinely want what’s worse for you.

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          A sell out to the queer community will absolutely negotiate with fascists to maintain their power, if they’re willing to do it while seeking power.

          A true leader of character has a spine and is willing to fight for the rights of vulnerable populations and refuse any notions of taking their rights. I don’t care how many neat things he’s said before. He’s backtracked like every other slimy politician and can no longer be trusted.

          He’s only a queer ally when it’s convenient for him to be one.

          Stop. Trying. To. Appeal. To. Fascists. It’s like people completely fail at learning from history.

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            Or maybe he just disagrees with you on this one issue. I don’t think the Trans community has done a good enough job convincing people why they’re right. Which is why over the past few years polling data, even amongst democrats, is moving away from the Trans community.

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              The trans community just wants to be treated like human beings and not have their rights to their bodies stripped away. How is that not convincing? What more of an explanation do people need?

              If the Dem community is drifting away, it’s because someone is enabling their latent transphobia.

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                The trans community just wants to be treated like human beings and not have their rights to their bodies stripped away.

                And most of these people want the same thing. It’s possible to disagree on individual issues.

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              why they’re right

              About what? Our existence? That we should be given the same rights, privileges, and privacy as any other group of people?

              Polling is showing that people increasingly succumb to conservative rhetoric and agree that we’re subhuman, second-class citizens. It does not show that we actually deserve that treatment.

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                Not everybody has every right, privilege and privacy that they feel they deserve. This is one issue where most people disagree that you should have this right. But many people agree on everything else.

                When you say “Our existence?” I can’t help but feel this is either disingenuous, or maybe it’s just childish.

                Somebody can agree with EVERYTHING else you say, but this one issue, they do not agree that you should have this right. And your reaction is “they’re calling us second class citizens. They don’t want us to exist. They’re bigots”.

                Or you say “succumb to conservative rhetoric” as though it isn’t a genuine opinion people have.

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                  Okay, I’ll say again: what do I have to be right about? That is the specific thing I asked you. What is the question that you feel the trans community is failing to answer?

                  Regarding your comment about not everyone having every right they feel they deserve, that is exactly what the 14th Amendment is for. All people are entitled to equal protection under the law. I want the rights that I am entitled to, not some modern Jim Crow-alike where my identity is just cause to violate the Equal Protections clause.

                  As for your last point, yes, I do think it’s conservative rhetoric and not a genuine opinion. Trans people have had rights codified in law for 70 years now. Conservative news media has amped up the rhetoric in the last couple years because Republicans can’t win on current policy decisions, so it needs to be culture war garbage. You can even see it in polling: 2022 vs 2025

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                    what do I have to be right about?

                    Athletics. I thought it was clear as that is the only issue he’s expressed a strong opinion on. Outside of expressing support of the community.

                    I think this is one of those issues the Trans community has not proven they are right about, and seeing how they react towards people that hold this opinion, while also showing they care about the community in other ways, feels self destructive. I think this has as much to do with the shift in polling as conservative rhetoric.

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                  Most people allegedly disagree that trans people should have medical care, and that means we just shouldn’t? That’s a hell of a fucking take.

                  Our existance is what’s up for debate on the right. Trump started this term declaring that legally we don’t exist. It’s not hyperbole. Every concession towards the right is another step towards their goal. Capitulation here is madness, I’m sorry.

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                    But your problem is you are not acknowledging the people you’re talking to or about. Somebody says I disagree on sports and you bring up medical care.

                    I remember back in the day democrats came out against gay marriage. Many people recognized this was a necessary thing for them to say in order to win elections. And the net result for gay people was a supreme court that granted them the right to get married.

                    The Trans community hears somebody disagree with their right to play whatever sport they want and there reaction is to burn the whole country to the ground. It is short sighted.

                    If a politician says they don’t support your right to Healthcare, that is specific to that politician. Newsom has signed plenty of bills that support the Trans community. Even in his conversation with Charlie Kirk he gave a lot of support to the Trans community which I generally ignored.

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          He’s already thrown trans people under the bus. If it’s him or Vance I’m voting for him, but if you’re willing to sacrifice trans kids you’re not an ally. He’s not an ally.

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        If Hilary had won, we would still have pro choice rights along with ALL the other awful decisions th 6-3 majority has made.

        Not the same at all.