• kreskin@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Same. Prosecute and punish. They criminally abused their power and clearly and obviously used it for mass-murder. Nuremberg showed us exactly what needs to happen here. Party doesnt matter in this case.

    The way to get out of this is to NOT ever again elect another zionism supporter to the president or congress. Unless we do that we will stay captured by their cabal and we’ll keep killing. That means most of the mainstream Dems and all the mainstream republicans cant be elected.

    • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      That means most of the mainstream Dems and all the mainstream republicans cant be elected.

      While you are correct, the problem is that when it comes down to the general election and the choice is a fascist Republican or a Democrat who is an Israel supporter, then there’s no difference between them on that front - but there are still differences on other issues, so it’s still important to get out and vote against fascism, even though it sucks.

      Also, in my humble opinion, Israel is more a symptom of the problem of corruption; it’s certainly hardly the only source. Our oligarchs in general are the worst cause, but foreign influence is also not great, and Israel does have deep claws in there, for sure.

      But it just points back to the reality: Getting involved well before the general; well before the primary, to lend support to progressive candidates who are NOT beholden to the oligarchs or foreign influences and corruption.

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        9 hours ago

        I agree 95%, but I do wonder if acting in this way will just lead us to the same sort of atroterfed elections from here on out. We seemed to have a government thats captured in a permanenet, systematic way now. When will zionist dominance over our political landscape ever be lifted?

        So I think we have to think past short term results.

        • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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          9 hours ago

          Nothing prevents you from supporting better candidates. But you should always support a better (or less shitty) candidate in a primary/election where possible.

          Canvas for the politician you prefer before the primary, then vote for them if they make it into the primary. If they or whatever other candidate you like less makes it into the general, voting for them is still better than voting for the party running a candidate that would be worse.

          Meanwhile, doing the above does not prevent anyone from trying to organize protests to throw out the system and replace with a new one, or support an alternate party, although the tipping point for where it makes sense to vote for a third party is difficult, because any time people vote enough for a third party such that the less-evil party also loses, everyone loses.