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  • Fair enough, I will continue to get pissy at folks who tell me “It’s solder not sodder” I’ll cold sodder their fucken faces to the tarmac. Kinda hard to get out of the adversarial mind set on these types of things when your culture ain’t exactly doin all that well y’know? I probably am one of a couple hundred in my region with my old ass dialect that hasn’t remerged with American southern or standard SoCal.




  • Pretty sure you guys were effected by the reromanticized effect, that broadly speaking started around the 1850s or so in England though wasn’t fully finalized until about the 1970s or so. Solder was just one of the more unified examples of a word being effected due to it being rarely used outside of blacksmiths up until the industrial revolution and it being a relatively easy thing to assume the l was pronounced by the developing metal working tradesmen unless the region had the soder or sodder spellings instead of with the traditional spelling.


  • How is that ethnocentric? I’m a Californian Redneck barely a culture and sure as shit not a ethnicity. My point was to moreso directly shit on the English in particular who reintroduced the l pronunciation and indirectly caused a bunch of random fuckers to get pissy with me. In hindsight I probably should specified, regardless I am unfamiliar with any dialect pre 1900s who pronounced the l in solder.




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    Honestly I’d give shit like that a pass, silent letters are stupid and sometimes don’t even exist in certain spellings for the same word looking at you soder, sodder, solder. Also if anyone brings up the l in solder being pronounced, not in my dialect nor in most other older dialects I’ve encountered only the ones wherein they reromanticized random words.



  • I feel like it’d be better to say that the broad cultural attitude and even aesthetics havent changed too much since the 90s. You could throw me in my normal clothes (Read weeb shirt and surplus camo jacket) and there’s a pretty good chance folks would just assume I’m punk or grunge. While culture has shifted the broad attitudes have really only gotten bleaker if more socially progressive, but here’s the thing the culture that existed when my grandmother was 20 and what existed when my mother was 20 is for more different than my mother and I at 20. Throw me back to 1999 and I would only look different in that I’m a paranoid asshole trying to murder his own father.

    Note I’m 26, just using 20 as a baseline since it’s pre 9-11 for my mom and 1976 for my grandmother.