• frostypanda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 days ago

    2026 is so depressing, lol. I’ve noticed this with some (non-gaming) Korean media, where the writing feels very AI (and I’m kind of suspecting a lot of it is considering East Asia’s quick embrasure of it).

    All of this is easy to legislate (not necessarily fix because people will just lie and face no consequence if they’re rich). Ban generative AI for commercial purposes.

    Anything with art, being that games, illustration, even writing feels tainted these days. Those of us who don’t want gen AI are going to have to find ways to form our own communities (and hope we can trust the majority of people in them).

    On the bright side, I’m suddenly feeling okay with not getting to play a lot of the Switch 2 games.

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      4 days ago

      i can barely find a gaming blog these days that aren’t: written by AI, clickbait, or videos (also AI)

      journalism is a lost art

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      Where Winds Meet is a Chinese free-to-play RPG that was briefly popular earlier this year. The devs actually considered it a selling point that NPCs and sidequests were entirely LLM-driven. Look up a video if you want to see some of the most awkward and cringe-inducing dialog this side of Soulstorm.

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        Because generative AI has been built off the backs of everyone, whether they consented or not. Because AI companies (Nvidia, Facebook, pick a company) have pirated enough material to keep any individual in jail for life, and yet they have no consequences and can profit off everything.

        If generative AI can not be used for commercial purposes, it also cripples the ability to replace artists, writers, etc., with an AI that stole all their work in the first place and is regurgitating it. Generative AI isn’t the issue, and it won’t go away (I wish it would, but the world doesn’t work that way). It’s the way it’s being used. Take the profit out of it, and we can all (to some degree) benefit from it. Take the profit out of it, and stop them from hoarding and destroying books/knowledge, destroying the environment, destroying your economy.

        I’m sure people more well-read into generative AI can give a better example than a layman who is tired of billionaires and trillionaires doing whatever they like with no consequence, destroying our environment, our jobs, our economy, and now our souls along the way.

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          Because generative AI has been built off the backs of everyone, whether they consented or not.

          This is covered by fair use, and in any case intellectual property is bullshit.

          Because AI companies (Nvidia, Facebook, pick a company) have pirated enough material to keep any individual in jail for life, and yet they have no consequences and can profit off everything.

          Legally, downloading stuff illegally is a civil content, so you can’t in fact go to jail for it, only pay fines. Morally, the whole concept of piracy evolved out of government-granted monopolies and was pushed by rich pricks as a way to get richer at the expense of everyone else, so there’s no reason to give it any moral weight.

          If generative AI can not be used for commercial purposes, it also cripples the ability to replace artists, writers, etc., with an AI that stole all their work in the first place and is regurgitating it.

          “Protecting jobs from competition” is very low on my list of things I want enforced via state violence. Maybe it’s high on yours, but I’d like not to get state violence’d to satisfy your sensibilities thank you very much. Otherwise you can’t complain when, say, conservatives use state violence so enforce their sensibilities on you.

          Take the profit out of it, and we can all (to some degree) benefit from it. Take the profit out of it, and stop them from hoarding and destroying books/knowledge, destroying the environment, destroying your economy.

          Uh… what? What’s your reasoning there?

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    In the 2025 report, the most commonly cited use of AI was the generation of visual assets and images, followed by story and text generation, and finally programming support.

    So assets and story are to go first.

    We automated the art, so humans can focus on labor.

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      Hold your horses, making by hand another 1000 cheap ugly stock waifu gacha images is not art. It is and was slop.

      Most j-games that have ads that reach me were slop since forever. Same story, same looking girls, same gameplay.

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        It’s like bean mouth with animated movies and cartoons.

        It turns out that most people weren’t that creative, anyway.

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        If art isn’t perfect, we can shrug. If something goes wrong with manufacturing, programming, whatever, much smaller issues can shut things down. Art brooks a greater margin of “error”.

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      I mean, that makes perfect sense. Game development is mostly programming, so if you’re an aspiring game developer these are probably inconvenient bits you want to get out of the way rather than what you’re there for.

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        Game development is mostly programming

        Is it though? Especially when you’re making use of an existing engine.

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    Yes, this tracks. My wife’s at a company that has both JP and US branches and the JP side seems a lot more chill with generative AI (although they learned already not to use it in production, only internal visuals and planning). It’s rather unfortunate, although hard to say if they would have hired an illustrator or just gone without visuals.

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    This seems weird to me. Isn’t Japanese culture obsessed with aesthetics? Like when you buy fast food there it actually looks neat and clean like in advertisements, and you might spend a small fortune on a couple of strawberries but they’ll be the brightest, most flawless specimens you’ll see in your lifetime. Even cheap throwaway meals are packaged like a professional food stylist went over them.

    That focus on perfection seems incongruent with the slop machine that churns out soulless, derivative, and often obviously flawed ‘art’.

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      Japanese creatives are now heavily split on LLMs. What with half taken to defend their work with watermarks and proofs of timelapses and manual processes, and there’s fierce loyalty for Miyazaki et. al. While others are either playing with dozens of LLMs to produce even animations, churning out thirst traps by the dozen, and still others “enhancing” game screenshots of their player characters in poses and skimpy clothing.

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        So its really just the same “actual artist” vs “horny gooner dumbass” split that has plagued Japanese media for decades 😭

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      There’s a big difference between what’s happening in the commercial world and art circles. I can’t speak for food but with regards to the topic here, Japan has a huge creator market and that market responds very differently. A year back, their biggest creator fair had a few “artists” selling AI “art” but essentially no one was interested and they hardly sold anything while others had sprawling queues. This year there was pretty much 0 as a result.

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      you might spend a small fortune on a couple of strawberries

      Isn’t that mostly because their farms are so far behind and producing such low volumes that they can only survive with artisanal hand picked/whatever products

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        Looking it up, while the high-end gift fruits are insanely expensive (hundreds of dollars), regular fruit seems to be widely available and costs the equivalent of a dollar or two. So it’s more expensive than in Western countries, but not exorbitantly so. They also tend to be unnaturally unblemished even on the low end.

        I wonder how much produce gets thrown away due to a single bruise or spot. I’m hoping it gets turned into drinks or purée for desserts or something instead.

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          Anything that grows out of the ground is expensive in Japan in general, so it’s not just the strawberries. You can easily get a situation when making food at home where a simple vegetable salad is as expensive as the rest of the meal combined.

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    Well, I have a big enough backlog to never run out of games if I live to break world records, so fuck all the new shit let the industry die.

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    I can’t prove it, but I’ve felt like a lot of the girls from gacha games have been generated for a while now.

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    O no! Looks like most of Lemmy is going to stand on their laurels and not play a single Nintendo game ever again! Right?

    Because y’all hate AI so much.

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      I already don’t play them cause they are the same shit copy pasted like EA sports. Also Nintendo sucked way before AI

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        Preach brother.

        They make the same old tired games over and over again and people go crazy for them.

        “OMG this new Mario game is revolutionary they really improve the jump mechanic!”

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          You can say whatever you want about their (very shitty) business practices but saying that all their games are copy pasted is just flat out wrong. They make some of the best, most fun, and most innovative games out there.

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    My impression is that AI stigma generally isn’t mainstream in Japan, so that makes sense. Also wow, y’all are salty.

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        “Crying over ai” like it isn’t completely valid to be concerned over the environmental impact in a world already burning

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          There are valid criticisms, and then there’s going into every thread that mentions AI and saying “AI bad.” Yes, there are a lot of retards who love crying over AI here.

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        Some days it feels like it’s the only thing they have to live for.

        “Stop all the downloading, you youngsters! In my day we had to punch all the punch cards by hand to write our programs and we liked it! People these days are downloading all their stolen, generated ones and zeroes from other computers instead of copying them by hand like real artisans. It’s computer slop, I tells ya!”

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    Well, damn. I guess I’m gonna have to be way more critical of which Japanese developers I support. Or stop buying Japanese games altogether.

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      Like every region, there’s developers who love throwing up asset flips, and there’s developers who make stuff out of passion.

      I remember one of the favorite comparisons of AI generated art I saw in a video on the subject is as an expensive replacement for stock footage (and in game development I guess it would be stock assets).