• bitteroldcoot@piefed.social
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    1 month ago

    It’s really interesting talking to people who voted for trump.

    It’s like, he said what he would do!!!
    And then he did it.
    And now you’re are surprised?

    It really seems they like they didn’t believe he would shit on them. When he shit on everyone for his entire life. I remember reading about him refusing to pay subcontractors 50 years ago.

    But a huge part was the whole trans, gay, illegal immigrant, abortion and still is.
    Yes he made a mess, but he kept his promise on these issues. So he isn’t just supported, he is worshipped.

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      30 days ago

      Who are your talking to?

      The Trump supporters I talk to are still fully supporting him. They have no issues because they agree with him to this day.

      I spoke with one who seemed to disagree with the mass deportations, but the when I pressed them they admitted that they agree with it all. They even said Renee and Alex deserved what they got.

      These are evil people, guys. Do not underestimate this.

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      1 month ago

      Unknown journalist in 2016:

      They voted for the elephant in the china shop. They didn’t realize they were the china.

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    But but Harris?!?1. TeH jEnOsiDeE!!1! She hates teh ghey!

    Blurghdurf didn’tearnmyvote hashtag jenosieeide

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    All this was basically known by the end of Trump1.0 (yeah yeah some will say they knew it in 2015 already, but it took me a while). But who didn’t see it after Jan6 '21 was beyond deliberately ignorant.

    Him getting re-elected really fucked up a lot of us.

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      I expected his first term to go much as his first term actually did. I expected his second term to be worse, but not this much worse.

      If he was going to dismantle NATO, I would have expected him to do it shortly after Putin got him elected.

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        First term, second term… Jan6 should’ve been the tipping point in everybody’s perception. Not just the event and Trump’s involvement in it, but the aftermath, all of MAGA, the baking, the hysteria, the hate.

        I expected his 2nd term to become much worse, I felt the fear in my gut across the ocean when the election result came out.

        But yeah, of course I didn’t have any concrete vision, so it’s still shocking, all the time.

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      Anyone that claims to have known anything in 2015 about Drumpf is lying to themselves. He wasn’t considered a serious candidate back then. Heck he wasn’t considered a serious candidate once he gained the GOP nomination. Going into the 2016 election, basically everyone thought that there was no way that Drumpf would win, including himself and his team based on their live reactions when it was called for him.

      I kinda suspect that the GOP was rigging the voting machines far before the 2016 election, but they never told Drumpf or his team, so when he won, Drumpf and his team were kinda blindsided, and didn’t have plans in place.

      Anyone that claims they didn’t have any idea of his plans after 2021 was being intentionally ignorant. Something that The Greediest Generation has perfected for themselves.

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        30 days ago

        I kinda suspect that the GOP was rigging the voting machines

        It’s not just the machines. The whole system is - well, prone to rigging. Voter ID, closing down voting places, fucking gerrymandering … also see Florida 2001, that was a blueprint for what we’re seeing today.

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    Mainstream media was a day late and a dollar short in understanding the threat of fascism. Par for the course for liberal media.

    Google: trump fascism before:2016-01-01

    Why you should stop calling Donald Trump a fascist. December 4, 2015

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/04/why-you-should-stop-calling-donald-trump-a-fascist/

    Donald Trump Isn’t a Fascist; He’s a Media-Savvy Know-Nothing. December 28, 2015

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/donald-trump-isnt-a-fascist-hes-a-media-savvy-know-nothing

    Whose Fascism Is This, Anyway? Dec. 15, 2015

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/16/opinion/whose-fascism-is-this-anyway.html

    Is Donald Trump leading a proto-fascist movement? August 28, 2015

    https://theweek.com/articles/574097/donald-trump-leading-protofascist-movement

    Trump May Be a Loudmouthed Demagogue, but Is He a Fascist? Donald Trump’s anti-Muslim rhetoric has his opponents likening him to Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler. Such comparisons may be misplaced.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/12/09/trump-may-be-a-loudmouthed-demagogue-but-is-he-a-fascist/

    Is Donald Trump a Fascist?

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-fascist-354690