yeah but in 1995 there was no broadband internet so going online to check or search for something right away was out of the question, no widespread cellular phone usage so no contacting anyone at any moment, no social media, I think the cultural change in regards of how we perceive the world as interconnected has changed
Yes. But we did have computers, basic social media, cell phones, and yes, we did have what constituted fast internet wirh DSL or T1 lines. No, it wasn’t “broadband” by today’s standards, but it was fast enough. Cable internet came out for consumers in ‘96.
Point being anyone going back to ‘95 would have little trouble understanding the world, and vice-versa. The big difference would be carrying the internet, CD collection, and movies in your pocket on a phone. I daresay there would be no small number of people who would prefer the ’90s to all the bullshit happening over the last couple decades.
Going from home PCs, early gaming consoles, cable TV, laser-discs, and a whole other shitload of changes technologically and societally between 1985 and 1955 IMO would be a lot more stark.
The lack of smartphones and social media would be a huge change for a 17 year old today going to 1996. That alone would probably give them difficulty in navigating society.
While you’re secifically right, that’s splitting hairs when compared to the wild differences betwen ‘55 and ‘85 - which is NO PCs, NO cellphones, NO internet, etc. and the point of the comparison was the differences between going back to ‘95 or ‘55 from the specified decades. NOT focusing on a single aspect of today vs ‘95 which, by comparison, is minor despite some 17 year olds having mental breakdowns over a cellphone addiction.
Idk, the internet, smoking rates, queer issues, maga, americans identifying as socialists, mass surveillance, etc.
Marty would be showing up in the 90s with a mustache and crop top, confused as to why everything is smoky as hell and why so many people are calling him homophobic slurs, as he has to figure out how to get onto and use the internet. Also a lot of his slang will be incomprehensible to the people of the 90s
Edit: I forgot the biggest thing! Cell phones weren’t common yet. Getting ahold of someone while they weren’t home or at their desk was unlikely to succeed.
I feel like it’d be better to say that the broad cultural attitude and even aesthetics havent changed too much since the 90s. You could throw me in my normal clothes (Read weeb shirt and surplus camo jacket) and there’s a pretty good chance folks would just assume I’m punk or grunge. While culture has shifted the broad attitudes have really only gotten bleaker if more socially progressive, but here’s the thing the culture that existed when my grandmother was 20 and what existed when my mother was 20 is for more different than my mother and I at 20. Throw me back to 1999 and I would only look different in that I’m a paranoid asshole trying to murder his own father.
Note I’m 26, just using 20 as a baseline since it’s pre 9-11 for my mom and 1976 for my grandmother.
I think a big part of that is how the 80s/90s had inherited a lot from the 1950s that never really made it over the 2000s divide.
So what you had in the 1980s was 50s revanchism that dominated mainstream culture while a strain of alt-media was growing in the cracks. And now that old 50s/80s culture has been fully strangled by an outgrowth of 90s/00s culture which has become the cornerstone of modern media and culture.
FFS, there’s a Hillary Duff revival going on. Won’t be long until Britney Spears is rediscovered and we have another Bush running for the White House.
Funny the massive cultural change between the 1950s and the 1980s whereas it really feels like far, far less has changed between the 1990s and today.
yeah but in 1995 there was no broadband internet so going online to check or search for something right away was out of the question, no widespread cellular phone usage so no contacting anyone at any moment, no social media, I think the cultural change in regards of how we perceive the world as interconnected has changed
Yes. But we did have computers, basic social media, cell phones, and yes, we did have what constituted fast internet wirh DSL or T1 lines. No, it wasn’t “broadband” by today’s standards, but it was fast enough. Cable internet came out for consumers in ‘96.
Point being anyone going back to ‘95 would have little trouble understanding the world, and vice-versa. The big difference would be carrying the internet, CD collection, and movies in your pocket on a phone. I daresay there would be no small number of people who would prefer the ’90s to all the bullshit happening over the last couple decades.
Going from home PCs, early gaming consoles, cable TV, laser-discs, and a whole other shitload of changes technologically and societally between 1985 and 1955 IMO would be a lot more stark.
The lack of smartphones and social media would be a huge change for a 17 year old today going to 1996. That alone would probably give them difficulty in navigating society.
yeah I’m talking about widespread use of all of that
While you’re secifically right, that’s splitting hairs when compared to the wild differences betwen ‘55 and ‘85 - which is NO PCs, NO cellphones, NO internet, etc. and the point of the comparison was the differences between going back to ‘95 or ‘55 from the specified decades. NOT focusing on a single aspect of today vs ‘95 which, by comparison, is minor despite some 17 year olds having mental breakdowns over a cellphone addiction.
Well, if you count Lemmy as social media, I guess usenet is… tho it’s for nerds in universities.
Idk, the internet, smoking rates, queer issues, maga, americans identifying as socialists, mass surveillance, etc.
Marty would be showing up in the 90s with a mustache and crop top, confused as to why everything is smoky as hell and why so many people are calling him homophobic slurs, as he has to figure out how to get onto and use the internet. Also a lot of his slang will be incomprehensible to the people of the 90s
Edit: I forgot the biggest thing! Cell phones weren’t common yet. Getting ahold of someone while they weren’t home or at their desk was unlikely to succeed.
I feel like it’d be better to say that the broad cultural attitude and even aesthetics havent changed too much since the 90s. You could throw me in my normal clothes (Read weeb shirt and surplus camo jacket) and there’s a pretty good chance folks would just assume I’m punk or grunge. While culture has shifted the broad attitudes have really only gotten bleaker if more socially progressive, but here’s the thing the culture that existed when my grandmother was 20 and what existed when my mother was 20 is for more different than my mother and I at 20. Throw me back to 1999 and I would only look different in that I’m a paranoid asshole trying to murder his own father.
Note I’m 26, just using 20 as a baseline since it’s pre 9-11 for my mom and 1976 for my grandmother.
I think a big part of that is how the 80s/90s had inherited a lot from the 1950s that never really made it over the 2000s divide.
So what you had in the 1980s was 50s revanchism that dominated mainstream culture while a strain of alt-media was growing in the cracks. And now that old 50s/80s culture has been fully strangled by an outgrowth of 90s/00s culture which has become the cornerstone of modern media and culture.
FFS, there’s a Hillary Duff revival going on. Won’t be long until Britney Spears is rediscovered and we have another Bush running for the White House.