It’s been reported that in the German elections, a far right party has made ‘significant gains’.

In the UK (at least before the scandals) Reform UK seems to have had a significant boost and has even surpassed the right-wing Conservative Party in some polls/predictions.

Even France, one or two years ago, was threatened with a far-right government due to the French far right party gaining a lot of support.

It feels like in the last few years, the far-right has exceeded itself and had a surge in popularity. Is this the case? And if so, wtf is fuelling it?

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    Fear is the fuel.

    Scared people are selfish, and selfishness is the only common denominator in all right wing politics. They don’t have great visions of how to run a society. All they want is to stop someone else from having “their” piece of the imaginary pie.

    It takes a lot more positive outlook to have the trust to build a society where people take care of someone they don’t know directly.

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    It’s mostly [xeno/queer]phobic people who don’t understand politics much blindly supporting the one thing they do “understand”.

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    The west has been in the imperialist stage of capitalism for a bit more than a century. As was described back then, this is a parasitic, moribund stage of capitalism. It’s parasitic in an obvious way, but what’s most interesting is the moribund factor. Imperialism essentially becomes the dominant factor in a capitalist economy once it fully saturates the national economy, when monopoly bank and industrial capital begin consolidating into finance capital, and when these groups must expand outward, not just can.

    The reason this is moribund is because it hollows out industrialization, seeking cheaper labor in the global south. It also seeks more specualtive than real returns, and sharpens the divide between rich and poor. What’s happening now is a sharp rightward turn in response to this system breaking down as the global south develops and gains independence from neocolonialism, giving them agency in how the world is run and tools at their disposal not purely linked to the west.

    It’s the protracted death of imperialism that is forcing many people into austerity in the west, which drives reaction. Everyone trying to blame it on foreigners and propaganda are missing the point, the actual material system the west runs on is dying away as has already been predicted before by analyzing the very mechanisms of capitalism.

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    Lots of stuff but in general bad economic conditions and lots of propaganda to point fingers. It amazes me how badly right wing goverments want immigrants out, yet without them they wouldn’t have a fraction of the success they had. If anything, they will employ policies that make the divisions more stark and immigrants more predisposed to not being able to adapt.

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    That’s a question for the ages for sure. I’m worried it’s going to get quite a bit worse before it gets better.

    As far as I can tell, there are multiple ongoing components to what’s going on.

    There is definitely some Russia-driven agitprop going on, with the apparent aim of weakening the West through division. But on its own I think it’s not a sufficient explanation, for two reasons. The same research showed that Russia is also pushing left-aligned agitprop points to increase division. And Russia was not similarly involved in the 1930’s, which nevertheless saw a somewhat similar trajectory.

    But it’s still a factor either way of course.

    The main force, I think, is the collapse of capitalism. That capitalism is its own self-destruction mechanism has been observed for centuries; it’s kind of one of the main takeaways from Das Kapital. With the ceaseless rise of wealth capture by the ruling classes, discontent rises correspondingly among the general population, and the beige centrist neoliberals that tend to occupy power seats in most democracies keep onboarding more and more far right talking points in an apparent effort to keep this discontent from getting an actual left wing government elected: drawing false equivalency between left and far right policies, forming coalitions with the far right to prevent even a mildly left wing party from forming a government, etc.

    The latter seems particularly driven by the flow of donor money from the wealthy elites.

    But it also looks like in many countries, the national media are disproportionately captured by said wealthy elite, who also increasingly push the same far right societal framing for the same core reason.

    Historically speaking, this private capture of wealth and power does not stop on its own, and it goes to some pretty bad places before it gets better. It’s bleak as hell, but we can take hope, I think, from another historical observation: it always gets better, eventually.

    Till then, take care of each other, y’all.

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    I’m not political why is far right on the rise

    Bruh. Inaction/neutrality helps the oppressor. Far-right is both a distraction from inequality and a tool to promote the interests of the elite by propping them either established success stories, or (alt-right) as alternative voices of genius fighting the corruption of public sector and big governments, even though they benefitted from that more than anyone else.

    That is why.

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      Yea it’s because a growing number of citizens are non political, and the ones that are political don’t do a good job at using their political power to help everyone. Populism rises from the forgotten corners of society.

      Here in America, it was NAFTA and a long string of other projects that stripped the wealth in the dignity from the angry MAGA’s.

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    It’s money. Of you’re ever unsure it’s money. It’s always tax breaks for the rich and hating minorities. It’s always money. All the time.

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    Wealth concentration, information manipulation and concentration, lack of education and media literacy. We’ve slowly pulled back the taboo of being a Nazi.

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    Information warfare is almost entirely responsible for this. People are generally good and generally doing better than in the past but led to believe the world is ending and that their life sucks.

    No one is immune to this but also many aren’t even aware they are victims. Just read this thread: “everything sucks wha wha wha” when objectively everything is better than 30 years ago literally everywhere. I’m not diminishing people’s issues but the consensus does not match reality and yall know that. It’s so easy to capitalize on these pains and gain control, “divide and conquer” etc. etc.

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      Things have never been better for people who control capital. I think once AI takes a swipe at the last pillar of the economy where people think “things have never been better” are going to suddenly think “holy shit eat the rich???”

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        Things have never been better is the liberal version of pull yourself up by the boot straps . It deflects societies problems back on society’s victims. You guys really need to cut that shit out.

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      “People are genuinely good and better than the past”

      The people who you tell that to, whose material conditions would strongly disagree, those are the people turning to right wing populism.

      Here at America, the bottom 50% of this country has been completely destroyed and betrayed. Yet the fucking liberals keep telling us that things have never been better. So telling people things I’ve never been better for 10 years while making them materially worse…. That’s where the fucking violent populism comes from.

      You can do you part by never manufacturing consent for a political system that has failed over 100 million individuals

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      I don’t think we can objectively say everything is better.

      Some things are better, but some are worse. The overall I agree is better but there are some harsh realities that are real, not product or any information warfare.

      Housing prices are just much higher. The amount of years needed to work to pay off a house are just much more than it used to.

      Salaries are, overall, lower when you account for inflation. Same amount of working hours let you consume less food, fuel, energy and amenities compared to a few decades ago.

      On a personal note, even my salary has been increasing below inflation rate. I used to be able to apply for social aid, and I’m no longer able to because they say my income is over the limit. I’m earning less and still got excluded from social programs.

      There are many things better. We have more freedoms, more knowledge, we are healthier. There are many great things now compared to before. But it is objectively true that some matters, mostly economical ones, have gone worse for the average worker.

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      Information warfare is almost entirely responsible for this.

      May be true. The US based conservatives keep posting about “immigrant problems” in Europe, and how immigrant criminals seem to get off with light or no sentences. So bad that one person I know in real life thought they were going to run into literal rape gangs when they visited the UK for work.

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        To be fair those people are scared to death of American cities too: that’s like a major factor of the culture war. Big scary city versus Noble country boys. Communist lawless Europe versus, lawful meth ridden, yet free, America!!

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      I’d say it’s both international and domestic information warfare. Even our news is in on it because it’s profitable. Nobody is interested in good news anymore, unless it’s something huge. But rage and fear basically prints money.

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    The current system no longer works for an average citizen. Current and future generations can’t expect a higher standard of living than our parents had while the environment gets destroyed all around us. This disillusionment with current ruling class leads people to support anti-establishment candidates which tend to be far right populists. It’s still possible for socialists to provide a valid alternative but in many countries the left is too fragmented and/or too focused on the wrong issues.

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      Left wing populism will rise out of the broken dreams of right wing populism, then maybe we can do democracy again??

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        Maybe. More likely current system will not survive this and we will end up with some sort of neo-monarchies where powerful leaders control most of the countries (Putin, Xi, Trump… we’re already pretty close) working hand in hand with corporations and billionaires operating as independent states and people either working for them, starving or both.

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    Without wanting to be controversial….

    Society tends to swing back and forth wildly, attempting to find communality. Gay people were openly oppressed, then accepted, then granted legal equality in marriage, then some adoption agency starts giving gay couples a boost up the waiting list - and somebody completely loses their head and the reverse process begins.

    We went from housewife who knew her place (/s) to “believe all women” in less than 3 generations. Some people can’t cope with the change of pace or seeming over-correction.

    Again, immigration: they should stay over there. We actually do need some medical staff and shop keepers. Wow, their food is nice. He was born and grew-up here and is one of us. I look like I’m the foreigner in my own high street. Send them all back.

    If society goes too far, or too quickly, one way then there tends to be a knee jerk reaction back there other way.

    Conservatism has always been popular, because a lot of people like the status quo. WHEREVER THAT MAY BE AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME. The fact that conservative values change over time is immaterial.

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      It’s almost like using political power to enforce societal norms has limits? And when you hyper focus on one group instead of society as a whole. The ignored parts get angry??

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    Russia.

    Something common among the rising rightwingers is a “Stop punishing poor Russia!”. The AfD in Saxony Anhalt and Meklenburg-Vorpommern for example are very heavy on “give us back the cheap Russian oil and gas!”

    I actually hope that the AfD will somehow rule Saxony Anhalt - it would little damage, as it is an irrelevant backwater state, but it would show that they cannot put their election promises in reality. That would either violate the Grundgesetz (Constitution), violate federal law, require gift showers from the federal government, or plain and simple miracles like raining money. Or even several of those points at once.

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      Be careful what you wish for. Saxony Anhalt may be one of the more irrelevant states demographically, but they are still part of the the Bundesrat and other institutions, meaning having access to sensible and secret information. There is the fear of Saxony Anhalt sharing secret defense plans with Russia.

      If the AfD leadership is not totally stupid (and unfortunately there some smart strategists) then they try to not do too much shit in a state government, gaining the trust of the people. Even in this moment they act as a normal, bourgeois party.

      Also never fortgetthi: Trump has been elected twice.