• mika june [she|her]@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    14 days ago

    a lot of shitty dems have turned coat and said they’ll support rogers. i suspect this is an attempt to get them back. I hate it, but that’s the best reason I can come up with.

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    13 days ago

    “Please forget about me throwing Gaza under the bus a couple of years ago. It’s a two-party system!”

    And, sadly, that’s accurate. It pisses me off that there has been no accountability for this, but she is still head and shoulders above anything smelling like MAGA.

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      13 days ago

      Kamala single handedly invaded Gaza and murdered babies with her bare hands.

      Jesus christ MAGA isn’t even the biggest threat to the left, it’s the single issue leftists.

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      14 days ago

      You’re learning the wrong thing

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/30/harris-trump-economic-proposals-poll

      Kamala Harris’s economic policies proved far more popular than Donald Trump’s plans in a blind test of their proposals.

      https://www.levyinstitute.org/publications/trump-wins-while-americans-vote-for-progressive-policies/

      This was not a loss on policy. This was not a loss on ideas.

      This was a propaganda war, people were lead to fear the Democratic party and were convinced Trump was a good businessman.

      People said they voted for Trump due to the economy, while every economic policy they liked when presented it without a name attached came from Kamala. They HATED Trump’s ideas when his name wasn’t attached.

      Stop teaching yourself the wrong lesson. Get prepared to fight the propaganda, don’t join the infighting.

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          14 days ago

          Listen to her speak, she is actually really good at presenting her policies, the issue is nobody will pay attention to her and she won’t lie to get the attention she feels she needs like Vance has stated he does. Remember during the 2024 election cycle when she literally had to chase down reporters? There are endless examples of her walking up to the press and trying to discuss policy just for them to shut her down without a chance to speak… meanwhile those exact same people were doing anything to be the 9 trillionth person to report on whatever nonsensical blatant lies and hate were spilling out of Trump’s mouth at the time.

          And all of that aside…how in the fuck are you going to claim somebody lost to Trump because they were bad at presenting policy? Trump has the poorest speaking abilities of anybody in the entire history of US politics, same with his displayed understanding of policies, laws, governmental structure, constitutional framework, etc. He is literally the absolute worst we’ve ever had at all of the things you say are the reasons the other side lost.

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              14 days ago

              What cult am I in? I’ve spent my entire life advocating for human and worker rights against both parties and every organization in the US government. I’ve been personally blocked by countless US reps and law enforcement organizations across the country.

              You were literally arguing antithetical statements and jumped to baseless name calling when you were called on it. You can’t claim somebody lost to Trump over their ability to discuss policy when Trump himself is the de facto worst policy speaker in the entire history of the country, dude even routinely shits on his own policies and verbatim states that whoever signed them in is the worst president ever…while taking credit for the things democrats passed after he shit talked it while it was up for debate.

              Are you sure you aren’t in a cult? Right wing authoritarianism is just as popular in Europe as it is in the US, how are you making sure you aren’t being misled into believing contradictory things…like the statements you made here.

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                13 days ago

                you are called a Democrat, shouldn’t you believe in some sort of inherent sacredness of popularity? why champion the verifiably least popular known Democrat?

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                  13 days ago

                  Not a Democrat. And if I believed in some “sacredness of popularity” I would be defending Trump…like you keep doing.

                  Are you positive you are not in cult yourself?

        • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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          13 days ago

          In what context? Both are poisonous to any campaign.

          Hiliary has experience in office but is very much a warmonger and happy to attack populations campaigns in Detroit need to attract.

          If in terms of being in office she’d fit more in the GOP with what she campaigned on in her presidential runs.

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            Nah, Hillary is a bad choice because the GOP has been working on anti-hillary messaging since the 90s.

            If she got the job, she’d probably be one of the best presidents in US history.

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              GOP went after her terrible personality no politics. They only hate her because she runs as a democrat not a republican. See trump. Who again started being popular again because of Hilarys birther attacks on Obama

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    14 days ago

    I definitely get what she’s trying to do, she’s trying to make a statement of unity within the party that we have a common enemy in MAGA. However, I don’t think she was right person to do this since most people on the very far left decided they’d rather have Trump as president than to vote for “Holocaust Harris”, so I fear this might backfire about as hard as Hasan directly campaigning with him in the primaries. I want to be wrong though

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    14 days ago

    Why are so many people upset she’s campaigning with him? A former vice president and presidential candidate campaigning with him might get the centrists to vote for him.

    Edit: It appears some people just want an excuse not to vote.

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        14 days ago

        She lost Michigan left, not the moderates. In this case this isn’t going to hurt him on the left unless he changes his message. But she can show the moderates that he isn’t radioactive. It’s also worth remembering that she never got to run her own campaign, the corporate wing of the democratic party basically used her as a face.

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          14 days ago

          That’s now how elections work lol Kamala Harris is despised across the board as an uncharismatic wet blanket of a candidate who is violently in favor of supporting genocide to the point of lying to the general public.

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            14 days ago

            “Violently in favor of supporting genocide”.

            Didn’t she support the two state solution?

            If her support of El-Sayed is enough to make you not vote for him you were never going to vote in the first place so why lie about it?

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                  14 days ago

                  You are being willfully obtuse here. He is campaigning with Kamala Harris who continues to be am advocate for unfettered arms sales to Israel. Like the 40000 tons of weapons we just sold them.

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                  Kamala is an Israel supporter. That part of how Trump won the elections. Muslims in Michigan IIRC. If Kamala wasn’t a bibi bootlicker, Cheeto Hitler would not be fucking the world up right now.