US tech may lag on the important stuff… but it’s also pretty meh in the shitty ones too
humanoid robots are their version of the ai bubble, otherwise I fully agree.
I’m very freaked out by humanoid robots and hope that they aren’t actually viable as labor replacements, so I hope this is true.
Nah, they understand the value of having a humanoid robot for general factory work. The technology is relatively primitive now but imagine where they will be in 5-10 years.
So, what are the practical negatives of China at this point? Am I going to get flogged for pirating games or is it just as bad as the US?
Most of their negatives are inward facing. My fear of them taking the mantle of world power would be that they become a highly racist and destructive expansionist power similar to the US of the Manifest Destiny era, but that remains to be seen.
They are still quite openly repressive and you can and will face prison time for wrongspeak. Everything we hate about corporate surveillance they’ve been doing basically since the internet went mainstream. I doubt LGBT+ would have a good time under their rule, to say the least. Porn is outright criminalized. I’m not sure where they stand on piracy, but the tools you need to do it “safely” are probably illegal, and you’ve got the great firewall to contend with.
Queer rights in China are highly regional, and steadily improving. Porn is indeed illegal, but piracy is less punished than in most western countries. VPNs are easy to get to bypass the firewall if you want to. Their surveillance is actually behind the west in terms of prevalence, it’s just more in the open and honest.
Porn is indeed illegal
Production and distribution not consumption.
Ah, gotcha! Makes sense.
Article 363 to 367 is the exact wording of the law
If you want to ctrl+f search 三百六十三 to get to the right place to start translating.
Thank you!
What’s this about surveillance? Don’t give me bullshit about the number of cameras per capita all that shows is the cities are denser.
You’re talking to Cowbee, loyally devoted defender of the PRC.
Cowbee, of the “Expansionist Imperialism is okay when China does it.”
“It’s actually chauvinist to call the PRC a Han-dominated ethno-state” Cowbee.
Cowbee has many titles.
China isn’t imperialist, nor is it “expansionist imperialist.” It isn’t that it’s okay when China does it, I have no idea what you’re referencing. It is chauvanist to call China an ethno-state, considering that it has 55 minority ethnic groups, who are overrepresented in the NPC to ensure their voices are not shut out by the Han majority. Do you have an issue with responding to me directly if you have something to say, or are you hoping I just won’t notice while you undermine me so you can get away with it uncontested?
China isn’t imperialist
Yes it is.
nor is it “expansionist imperialist.”
Yes it is.
I have no idea what you’re referencing.
Thanks for admitting you’re uninformed. You can start by reading about Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. If you want you can look into their secret police networks in places like the UK and Canada too.
It is chauvanist to call China an ethno-state,
No it’s not.
considering that it has 55 minority ethnic groups
All of whom are repressed by the dominant Han majority
who are overrepresented in the NPC
That’s like saying America isn’t racist because there are black people in congress.
Do you have an issue with responding to me directly
Not at all
are you hoping I just won’t notice while you undermine me so you can get away with it uncontested?
Uncontested? I have no problem responding to your “contests.”
Do you have a problem with me responding to people who aren’t you? You want me to only talk to you, because if I have a reasonable discussion with reasonable people then it becomes harder for you to monopolize the conversation with aggressive efforts at spreading disinformation?
I’ll respond to whomever I want. Do I need your permission? This isn’t WeChat.
No, China is not imperialist, nor “expansionist imperialist.” This is baseless. The west is actively imperialist. The west uses financial domination of the global south, including dollar hegemony, IP monopoly, unequal exchange, and more to extract as much surplus from the global south as possible. China does not, and the reason it does not is because it isn’t dominated by private finance capital. Private finance capital is the main driver of imperialism as a stage in capitalism, and because you have not looked into the causes of imperialism and neocolonialism and have not looked at the numbers, you assume that the socialists must be guilty as well:
I’ve read a lot about Taiwan, Tibet, Xinjiang, and while I still need to read on Inner Mongolia, I don’t see that changing my assertion that China is not expansionist. I recommend you read Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation, Taiwan: An Anti-Imperialist Resource, Hong Kong Reading List, and Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth. All of these are western sources, so you should have no problems with believing this to simply be “CPC propaganda.”
China has comprehensive minority protections and rights. Your evidence thus far seems to be that China is secretly evil because it has affirmative action, which is nonsense of course and demands more than just blanket statements with no backing. You’re free to respond to whoever you want, but when you lie and slander to other people behind their backs, certainly you can see why that would be a pretty low thing to do, no?
Read up on the Five Eyes system. Many western countries have intense surveillance that is not only highly sophisticated, but very under-published about.
The reason why China doesn’t have this is because it’s legal to just spy on the servers the people living there use directly.
They already do that in the west, though, at least in the US.
Am I going to get flogged for pirating games or is it just as bad as the US?
Chinese Prison Standards as of this year:
https://safeguarddefenders.com/sites/default/files/2026-07/BEHIND BARS PRISONS.pdf
and US Prison Standards:
https://eji.org/issues/prison-conditions/
Neither are good.
It’s hypercompetitive from an early age I guess? College exams are matter of life-or-death, it’s the only ticket to a good life you will ever get, the spots are limited, and you are either pride or disgrace of the family depending on your academic excellence. And you are competing with thousands of other kids who are also pressured to excel.
I would probably kill myself if I was pressured so much to compete with fellow humans as a kid, honestly.
The level of casual racism in Chinese culture is pretty exceptional. It’s not great in the USA, but China takes it to a whole new level.
Things are supposedly getting better, but then we also say that in the west (and is it really).
Yeah, at least in the West it’s considered backwards and abhorrent among polite society to express racism.
In China literally no one would bat an eye because it’s just viewed as completely normal.
So, you know all those bad things you hear about China? State survalience, freedom of movement, free speech. We decided to implement all of the bad things and none of the good things.
Why? Well, because we have to. You don’t want China to WIN THE RACE FOR AI SUPER INTELLIGENCE! Then you’ll lose all your symbolic freedoms that have already been destroyed.
I just want high speed rail man. I just want to go to the grocery store and not spend $100+ for one bag of groceries. I can’t follow recipes, the spices cost $12 or more a piece.
I don’t want to “be China”. I stan for China because despite their many flaws, they are improving and building shit. We can do that here if we learn from the way that they reign in capitalist control. My local library has visible black mold and the librarian is always coughing.
Also, a lot of the “evil state government disappearing people” are things like this:
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna34127010
Say I’m crazy. But I think the death sentence is bad. But, if I was gonna reserve it for anything. I’d reserve it for people that decide to poison baby formula for profit.
Hell, if I was world dictator, I’d mandate than any mother that needed baby formula they could go into any store and get it for free. Meanwhile, we lock up our baby formula behind glass. Because no one in their right mind, sees someone stealing baby formula and thinks “that person is wrong”. I would hope they think “what the fuck is wrong with our society that people are stealing baby formula”
Seriously. It makes people look bad & hypocritical when all they say is “China bad” while giving other countries like the US passes & excuses on corruption. It’s one reason that makes people like myself stan for China more.
it’s what happens when people let corporate, mainstream media & corrupt politicians brainwash them instead of doing research & having critical thinking.
This, this is what I’m feeling!
We’ve known the solutions to all these problems for generations and still choose the most harmful option to prevent then. We put rules in place to torture people because they want different genitals, or because they’re a different color, I’ve never been able to understand how anyone can care so much about any of that!
Personally, I have this crazy idea:
What if we just had a strong regulatory state … but democracy too? Is that too crazy to even imagine? Like… China, but with press freedoms? And open elections?
It doesn’t seem nearly as radical to me as either China or the US presently, tbh.
I would also like to know because we already have all of the commie distopia promises I was told about. Are there new worse ones now, or am I supposed to rely entirely on cognitive dissonance?
Yeah, this is literally where I’m standing. Everything I was warned about growing up has come in spades delivered by the system that was framed as the last stang against this nonsense. At this point, I’m genuinely hoping mexico becomes the next global super power because I can’t trust any of the current regimes to have the best interest of humans.
The actual, practical negatives for the average person are that it’s still a developing country, so much of, say, rural China isn’t as nice and developed as higher tier cities. This is a vanishing problem though as the entire country is rapidly developing. You also would have to learn Mandarin, and immigration is very difficult. The benefit system can also be more complicated due to how it was set up in the past, with many benefits being tied to regions, but this again is something being worked on.
The primary benefit of China is that people there actually look forward to the future because of how rapidly it’s improving, and that this has been steady since 1949.
Cuck porn
pretty sure this is team sport?
It’s close, except in these regards China is cuckolding the US
Fair, easy mistake to make
It took me a minute to figure out what this meant, and then I saw your username.
I’m not on either team. But I’m definitely not on Team Sport. So I guess maybe ya got me.
Wasn’t there a youtube series that proved China fakes all of this though?
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